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    Mitchell Report

    Post by Slider on Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:23 pm

    will be published Thursday or Friday. RW says that 60-80 guys will be named in it.

    Can you name a juicer?

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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Vriez on Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:26 pm

    Clemens.

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    Re: Mitchell Report

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    SORRY RAY, BUT YOUR BOY WILL BE ONE !!

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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Guest on Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:47 pm

    Palmero, Gibbons...

    Tejada is going down. Watch out for Brian Roberts and Ramon Martinez

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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Guest on Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:58 pm

    nomar

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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Guest on Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:36 pm

    Luis Gonzalez and jis 57 HR and 142 RBI season is going down
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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Vriez on Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:07 pm

    Brady Anderson.

    Biggest steriod season in the history of baseball. Him and Brett Boone.
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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Slider on Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:39 pm

    ah, Booney. nice get.

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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Guest on Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:50 am

    I would have said Nomar, but anywho.

    Troy Glaus

    Also, Eric Hinske

    I wouldn't be surprised about Todd Helton either...

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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Guest on Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:55 am

    How could I forget Pudge, V-Tek, Nixon(Trott that is) and Javy Lopez!

    If I had to pick 2 of those I would say Javy Lopez, and Pudge...they look alot smaller now than before testing. Trott and V-Tek are slightly smaller...
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    Re: Mitchell Report

    Post by Vriez on Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:55 am

    #4 Yawkey Way wrote:How could I forget Pudge, V-Tek, Nixon(Trott that is) and Javy Lopez!

    If I had to pick 2 of those I would say Javy Lopez, and Pudge...they look alot smaller now than before testing. Trott and V-Tek are slightly smaller...

    You had me running to google images to check out pics of Trot-a-lot, since he's my favorite player in the world. In pics from the beginning of his career he does look a little thinner, but most hitter fills out a little in their late twenties...its definitely nothing significant like the difference in pics of Bonds. I will also say that i dont think he's gotten smaller in recent years -- if anything, just fatter. Whatever the case, i would probably cry if he was outted. I obviously think youre wrong, but that may be an opinion from someone blinded with man-crush.

    I WOULD, however, like to make a serious objection to your Helton out. I've gotten into this same argument on Rotoworld a couple times, as Helton's name almost always comes up with steriod accusals. I figured Id have to defend my stance on here as well.

    Todd Helton is undeniably one of the best hitters of our era. He has mashed since day 1. In his first full year in the bigs (1998) he hit 25 jacks and 37 doubles as a 24 yr old. This was followed by 35hrs and then his 'infamous' 42 and 49 homer years. This gradual increase in power holds true to the majority of mashers through the years. It must also be said that his 42 and 49 homer years were when he was 26 and 27. It is statistically proven that hitters reach their peak at an approximate age of 27. In the year immediately following his 49hr year, he hit 30 and then 33. Most importantly, Helton hit his 49 homers in 2001 and then dropped to 30 in 2002. 2002 was the first year that Colorado implemented the humidor. Since 2002, homers per game have dropped from a league high 2.9 to 2.2. Helton was directly effected by this since, if you look at his 2001 splits, he slugged .774 at home and only .593 on the road. Since the humidor was implemented, Helton's homer totals have dropped, but his doubles total has stayed high. If im remembering correctly, Helton is the only active player to total at least 30 doubles in 11 straight years, and has amassed 40 doubles in each of his last 5 years. He's also getting older and has battled back issues.

    Now, by no means am i trying to get 'holier than thou' here....I just really respect what Helton has done and get upset when people (not saying YOU are) pawn his accomplishments off on 'roids. If Helton is named in the Mitchell Report, I'll officially retract my diatribe....but i doubt that happens.

    Here is a link on the effects of the 2002 humidor on Helton:

    http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20071006_Coors_humidor_effect__Less_smokin_the_ball.html

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